Friday, April 21, 2017

Spider-Man and Hourman in: "Detour Into Detonation!"



The full Spider-Man: Homecoming trailer has been released, and frankly, if you haven't seen it, don't watch it.  It seemed like one of those trailers that give away far too much of the plot.  It did look cool, and the inclusion of Iron Man will keep it fresh after five previous Spidey flicks (sort of a live-action issue of Marvel Team-Up).  I like the take on The Vulture as a scavenger of tech from leftover super-battles.  I'll definitely check this out in the theater and hope there are still a few surprises left.

These two first crossed paths back in STF #578,,,

16 comments:

Sonofjack Well said...

Cool cover, Ross.

I always thought that Hourman was kind of a strange name for Rex Tyler to adopt given that it is based on the fact that his powers only last for an hour at a time. It's almost as if he is giving the bad guys a clue to his biggest weakness. That would be like Superman calling himself Vulnerable-To-Kryptonite Man!

FreeLiveFree said...

This is kind of an interesting choice for a team-up.

Anonymous said...

I have to confess: I much prefer this sequel cover to the one for STF #578. That being said, I would like to reassure you that trailers rarely give away the whole final draft of a movie. Seeing as how most of them seem to be composed of out-takes that wind up on the editing room floor during post-production!

For example: it was implied, in the trailers for FATE OF THE FURIOUS, that Charlize Theron's character put Dom on an emotional short leash by threatening Brian and Mia! But, I went to see it...and guess what?

Completely different leverage/blackmail.

Cary Comic said...

Sad but true, Anon. :-(

Anonymous said...

Sonofjack, I quoted a similar thought last year. See https://braveandboldlost.blogspot.com/2016/07/hourman-vs-hulk.html?m=0 for responses.

Cary Comic said...

And, as your namesake replied, back then:

"That's why it's called 'suspension of disbelief.' The same thing could be said about the Ray (keep him literally in the dark) or Hawkman (literally clip his wings) or even Spider-man (spray him with insecticide)! Need I go on?"

Sonofjack Well said...


To the Anonymous whose comment I... uh, "borrowed": Oops! Sorry about that. I didn't consciously remember your comment, but I was reading this blog back then, so I must have read it when you originally posted it. I know you weren't accusing me of anything, but I think that I must have inadvertently plagiarized. D'oh!

To Cary Comic: I don't think the quote you referenced is really valid. The Ray is called the Ray and Hawkman is called Hawkman because they resemble a ray and a hawk respectively. Spider-Man's powers are spider-like. They chose names based on their abilities, not on their limitations.

Cary Comic said...

@Sonofjack: the limitations are the inherent flip side of the abilities. Something _any_ criminal genius could all too easily discern! Hence, Spidey getting bug-sprayed with ethyl chloride, discourtesy of Alistair Smythe, in one confrontation. Plus the Wizard recruiting Hydro-Man, for the Frightful Four, in order to douse the Human Torch with high-pressure blasts of water!

Sonofjack Well said...

Cary Comic, how is it that you are not getting this? Of course every hero hero has certain limitations. No one is saying otherwise. However, the Human Torch does not call himself "Douse-Me-With-Water Man". Hourman has chosen a code name that gives his enemies a major clue to his greatest weakness which they otherwise might never suspect. I just thought that was kind of funny and I thought I would share. Sheesh!

Cary Comic said...

And, again, I say the same logic applies to the Human Torch! The word "torch" implies "fire" which is naturally cancelled out by water. So, undeniably, yeah: he might as well call himself "Douse-Me-With-Water Man."

Sonofjack Well said...

Really, Cary Comic? You honestly think that it is "undeniable" that the Human Torch might as well call himself "Douse-Me-With-Water Man"? That makes sense to you? Do you really think that it's the Human Torch's name that gives away that he is vulnerable to water attacks, or could it be that he is covered with flame?

Okay... see if you can follow this very simple logic. If Hourman called himself (for example) Mightyman his enemies would most likely never find out that his powers lasted only an hour. It's true that they might not figure it out even though he calls himself Hourman, but why give them such a big hint by needlessly exposing his major weakness? By doing so, he greatly increases the chance that his enemies will figure it out.

The point is, he could have chosen a name that in no way gave a hint to his weakness. Instead he chose a name that would be the equivalent of the Golden Age Wonder Woman calling herself "Please-Don't-Bind-My-Wrists-Together Woman".

And I hope you feel as stupid as I do for carrying this ridiculous debate on for a third day now. I've exposed one of my major weaknesses. Following Hourman's logic I guess my superhero name would be "Can't-Just'Let-It-Drop Man"!

Cary Comic said...

On the other hand, the phrase "Man of the Hour" has been around since before Rex Tyler was born! So, the average street criminal of the 1940's would most likely not have had the smarts to make such a Holmesian deduction. And, as for the high-tier super-villains the JSA faced? Most of them had boastful aliases of their own that gave away their own inherent weaknesses.

Example: the Golden Age Icicle. Vulnerable to heat!

Cary Comic said...

Now, we can let the matter drop.

Anonymous said...

One more comment. Sonofjack, I'm flattered that my comment has such an influence. No thoughts of plagiarism.

Sonofjack Well said...

Well, Anonymous, I think you made a very astute observation. Of course, that's before was informed that it was undeniable that the Human Torch might as well call himself "Douse-Me-With-Water Man" and that the name "Hourman" was actually a reference to the phrase "Man of the Hour".

Cary Comic said...

Exactly!

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